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Michael Lloyd Aug. 8, 2010, 1:14 p.m. permalink

Any reviewer could find things to nit pick in a video edit. My overall impressions are to pay more attention to sound. I've just watched 3 stories and this one was mixed too loud. The sound was jarring at the open and slammed to a stop at the end. Ease it in and out and always use cross fades between cuts (a tip from a veteran TV shooter after watching my first video that I still remind myself of today.) The other thing that bugs me is when interview subjects are talking away from the camera, way away from it. In this case to a reporter (there was an uh-huh in there) sitting far to the left of the camera. Put them behind you, or you get behind them and see the difference in the power of an interview. I want to see a subjects face, both eyes, their feeling—not their ear.

Loved the wireless sound of Keith talking to folks on the street. Would have liked to have seen more, and a variety of reactions to his dramatic personal ministry. Loved his insight about war being caused by hurt. Might have been better to have cut some other war observations to emphasize the truly unique ones.

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Eric Seals Aug. 8, 2010, 6:10 p.m. permalink

I think finding things to nit pick about in a video is not only good for us but crucial in solving the "simple" small things to help us clean up and make our video just a little bit better and get over that hump. 

It is a much easier quick fix for people benefiting from the review with us being nit picky on certain things than to try and conquer quickly the harder narrative arc, story structure and flow (it's hard for me to get that down) which takes lots of practice and time.
That said getting a good review about the visuals, sound, flow and structure of a video does help us out in the long run and I appreciate when someone breaks down one of my videos or someone else's video on here and I can learn from it :-)

This was nice Adam! 

Keith has such a smooth and calm voice when talking it made it pleasant to listen to plus your audio was really good during the interview, especially on the street. 
I didn't notice the sound mix being to loud like Michael did, for me it was smooth from beginning to the nice ending with the..."I'm a follower of Jesus and best as I know how I'm trying to follow him." I will say Adam for the ending I'd much rather you end this on a really strong visual something of him walking with the cross in silhouette, etc rather than more face time with him.

Michael brings up a really good point about your interview with Keith talking away from camera to the reporter and his suggestion about having the reporter behind you is spot on. 

I liked your editing, quick cuts and the natural sound especially in the of the cross being put together. For some extra natural sound as he was pulling the cross around Tulsa, I would have loved to have heard the sound of the wheel turning on the sidewalk. 

When showing stills especially coming in right from a video with movement the stills should come in moving to keep the flow of movement going through. Some of your stills like at :28 and 1:50 second came off of video suddenly, still and then you added movement to it. I think it feels and flows better the other way.

At 1:13 the stills of him with the cross around the world it was good seeing the journey but it was to quick and I liked to see them all just longer.

There was a total black part at the 1:29 second not sure if that was meant as a dip to black or not.

Love all your the details from wheel moving on the sidewalk (shot nice and steady) to the hands during prayer and the tools on the cross when he is putting it together in the beginning.

Overall really nice job and I'm going to check out more of your work this week.

Eric

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Adam Wisneski Aug. 8, 2010, 9:59 p.m. permalink

Thank you both for the review. I'll make sure and take more time when I'm doing an interview next time. I need to take time and compose the interview like a photo instead of just going with where the reporter sits. Advice well taken. 


I agree too, that the small things count. Hadn't thought about improving technical stuff that much, since I'm mainly excited by the different structure and narrative possibilities of video. But I'm going to take this week and make sure I pay attention to the small details, audio crossfades, interview composition, ken burns stuff, etc. 

Thanks to both for such a thorough review!

Your point is interesting, Eric, about the advice that is easier to take. Technical vs. structure/narrative arc. Though, I disagree. I've recently sought out advice about story and narrative structure, and believed this to be the most important thing missing from my videos. Crossfades and shooting techniques can be learned quickly, and mistakes I think are forgiven quickly. The narrative of a video is what I think people respond to. I mean, no matter how good you are at shooting and editing and getting good sound, won't your stories always be mediocre if you're not thinking about structure and narrative arc? Your thoughts? 


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Eric Seals Aug. 8, 2010, 10:53 p.m. permalink

Sorry man, I think you misunderstand me on that or I didn't express myself clearly enough....


When I said, "It is a much easier quick fix for people benefiting from the review with us being nit picky on certain things than to try and conquer quickly the harder narrative arc, story structure and flow (it's hard for me to get that down) which takes lots of practice and time.".....

What I was trying to say is that it is easier for us to master/conquer some of the "nit picky" stuff quicker (when to cross fade, hiding your lav mic, watching your sound etc) 

THAN IT IS or VERSUS 

The hard things (story structure, flow of the piece, etc) 
And this is the big challenge but if we do it right it grabs people with the compelling story angle, the emotion to it and they relating to it and they enjoy the great storytelling ride we just took them on.

That's why I'm sure you are on here as am I to get much better at our storytelling.  

This is a book I ordered over the weekend to start helping me;
"The Visual Story"
http://www.amazon.com/Visual-Story-Second-Creating-Structure/dp/0240807790/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1281332821&sr=8-3

from a book reviewer "One thing young filmmakers and students often fail to understand about the auteurs and master directors is that they base their shots on what serves the story, not the fact that the shot "looks cool." I love the fact that author Bruce Block talks so much about the need for the visuals to follow and reflect the ups and downs of the underlying story structure."


The technical things with FCP, audio equipment, camera gear etc are just tools like a book front to back and all the pages inside. But it is what's on those pages, how it reads and what our viewers get out of it that counts in the end. That's what I meant.

Didn't mean to be confusing if I was on that last post.

Eric

 

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Adam Wisneski Aug. 9, 2010, 9:53 p.m. permalink

Ah. Understood. I agree, thanks. Book is on order.


Adam

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